WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.930 --> 00:00:29.540 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: Okay, thank you all for joining us today for this second to last picnic Pd workshop session for this year. Today, we're going to cover the motivated learner providing assessment choice to activate student motivation. And I'll go ahead and pass it over to Lauren, Carrie and Dave. Love. Thank you. 2 00:00:30.140 --> 00:00:58.209 Lauren Dana: Thank you, Emily, so I just wanted to quickly introduce ourselves. So I'm Lauren, Dana. I'm an instructional designer at the center for teaching and learning. I'm joined by my colleague Carrie, who is also an instructional designer at the center for teaching and learning, and we're also lucky enough today to have Dave Love, who teaches the course, seafood and public health, global trade nutrition and the environment, and is based at the center for a livable future. So he's 1 of our wonderful faculty. So welcome, Dave. 3 00:00:59.070 --> 00:01:01.129 Dave Love: Yes, thank you. Nice to be here. 4 00:01:02.370 --> 00:01:12.579 Lauren Dana: Great. So at the end of this session, what we're hoping that you'll be able to do is understand how choice inspires student motivation through educational theory. 5 00:01:13.510 --> 00:01:18.910 Lauren Dana: examine different strategies on how to implement choice in and of assessments. 6 00:01:19.650 --> 00:01:25.560 Lauren Dana: and finally depending on time, create or revise an assessment that incorporates student choice. 7 00:01:27.090 --> 00:01:35.900 Lauren Dana: So before we jumped into the content of the presentation, I just want to start with a short reflection, and I wanted to offer you 3 reflection options. 8 00:01:36.050 --> 00:01:45.030 Lauren Dana: So option one. I want you to think of a time in college or graduate school when you were most engaged in an assignment. What made it meaningful for you. 9 00:01:45.180 --> 00:02:03.939 Lauren Dana: Option? 2. How have your own interests or backgrounds shaped your approach to learning or teaching or option? 3. If you're teaching currently, or have in the past. If someone asked your students what assignment or project best represents your course, what would they say? And why? 10 00:02:04.070 --> 00:02:11.030 Lauren Dana: So please choose the option that speaks to you. Just take about 2 min to quietly think about this, or jot down some notes. 11 00:02:11.190 --> 00:02:20.440 Lauren Dana: I do have some music, so when the music ends, that'll be the signal to wrap up. And hopefully, if you're comfortable, you can share your thoughts in the chat or just raise your hand to speak. 12 00:02:20.770 --> 00:02:24.009 Lauren Dana: I'm gonna start our music now. 13 00:02:44.740 --> 00:03:02.019 Lauren Dana: Okay, so I think that was a little shorter than 2 min. But okay, the music ran out. So would anyone like to share in the chat or raise their hand about any one of the options. Option 1, 2, or 3. So I'll just give everyone a moment, either type in the chat, or if there's any 14 00:03:02.220 --> 00:03:03.420 Lauren Dana: hands. 15 00:03:15.760 --> 00:03:44.039 Lauren Dana: and I can actually, I'll even start us off with some of you are typing. I know I was lucky enough to work actually with Renee. I just got my master's in performance, learning, and development, and I worked with Renee on a capstone project that was relevant to my current work. So, even though it was for school, I was able to take a look at some of the processes at Ctl, and how they could be improved, and so that for my option one, I just found it really meaningful that I could work on something outside 16 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:45.120 Lauren Dana: of 17 00:03:45.460 --> 00:03:51.909 Lauren Dana: out with my work outside. I could use my actual work to work on my course outside, which was really helpful. 18 00:03:53.220 --> 00:04:00.959 Lauren Dana: Looks like Bsph toolkit. Emily has a memorable semi which you have to choose the context where to apply a structure to. 19 00:04:01.700 --> 00:04:09.260 Lauren Dana: Oh, Dave, that's great using real world data sets for projects. Right? So you're using real data, even if it's a theoretical or hypothetical project. 20 00:04:09.450 --> 00:04:10.400 Lauren Dana: Great. 21 00:04:13.370 --> 00:04:16.070 Lauren Dana: Okay? Anything else anyone else want to share. Okay? 22 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:27.649 Lauren Dana: And Rikito, great asset, involve problem solving and the topic relevant to the subject. Excellent. Yeah. So I think it really helps when the topic is relevant to you or to your studies. 23 00:04:30.200 --> 00:04:31.479 Lauren Dana: Great. So we're gonna 24 00:04:32.580 --> 00:04:41.589 Lauren Dana: forward here. So I'm going to get started talking a little bit about the Bsph student self-determination theory or Sdt and assessment choice. 25 00:04:43.210 --> 00:05:01.870 Lauren Dana: But as this series and workshop focuses on learner-centered teaching. I did just want to quickly share some learner centered data from Bsph students that may offer useful insights for those of you joining from other institutions. I highly encourage you to explore your own student data to inform your course design. 26 00:05:03.280 --> 00:05:13.920 Lauren Dana: As you can see, our Bsph student population spans a wide age range. This diversity means that your students will likely come to the classroom with varying backgrounds, goals, and interests. 27 00:05:14.400 --> 00:05:26.149 Lauren Dana: designing assignments that are motivating and relevant to such a broad demographic can be really challenging. But it also presents an opportunity to tap into your students unique strengths and experiences. 28 00:05:26.340 --> 00:05:42.890 Lauren Dana: It's also important to note that our students are at different places within their career. So again, creating assignments that are universally applicable and motivating across the spectrum can be difficult, especially when you're trying to meet the needs of early career and seasoned professionals. 29 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:57.029 Lauren Dana: Additionally, our data shows that over half of our students are enrolled part-time. While this does vary by program, it highlights a common reality among all adult learners. They are busy with many competing priorities. 30 00:05:57.200 --> 00:06:06.710 Lauren Dana: The data reminds us that we're working with a diverse and multifaceted student body and thoughtful assessment. Design is essential to support their success. 31 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:24.550 Lauren Dana: While our student body is diverse, they do share common needs that when supported, can foster intrinsic motivation. One powerful framework that speaks to this is self-determination theory. Sdt, which is widely used in both psychology and education. 32 00:06:24.950 --> 00:06:35.080 Lauren Dana: Stt identifies 3 core psychological needs, that when met enhance motivation and engagement. So we have autonomy, relatedness and competence 33 00:06:35.310 --> 00:06:41.349 Lauren Dana: incorporating this framework into your teaching practice can significantly boost motivation and academic success. 34 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:46.669 Lauren Dana: Let's briefly explore just each one of these needs. So we're going to start with autonomy. 35 00:06:46.970 --> 00:06:51.849 Lauren Dana: The supporting autonomy means giving students meaningful choices in their learning path 36 00:06:52.290 --> 00:06:57.029 Lauren Dana: could involve letting students set their own learning goals or select topics that interest them. 37 00:06:57.460 --> 00:07:06.730 Lauren Dana: But for the purpose of this workshop we're really focused specifically on providing choice in assessments, an effective and practical way to support autonomy in the classroom. 38 00:07:07.290 --> 00:07:19.599 Lauren Dana: Now, I'm going to talk a little bit about relatedness, and this refers to students ability to find personal meaning and connection in their coursework. And this was actually a common topic in the chat about assignments that were meaningful. 39 00:07:19.860 --> 00:07:28.820 Lauren Dana: Many of our students, like us, are already working professionals, so designing assignments that relate to their real world experiences can be incredibly motivating. 40 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:36.000 Lauren Dana: and again offering assessment. Choice can help students connect their personal and professional lives to their academic work. 41 00:07:36.950 --> 00:07:38.829 Lauren Dana: And finally, we have competence. 42 00:07:39.050 --> 00:07:48.180 Lauren Dana: Students want to feel capable and empowered in their learning journey. They want to know that they're not just passive recipients of information, but active contributors. 43 00:07:48.470 --> 00:07:57.110 Lauren Dana: assignments, or assessments that allow students to build on existing strengths or explore new applicable skills, can help cultivate this sense of competence 44 00:07:57.630 --> 00:08:03.640 Lauren Dana: by designing assignments that incorporate choice. You can hopefully tap into all 3 of these motivational needs 45 00:08:03.810 --> 00:08:07.719 Lauren Dana: creating a more engaging, effective, and learner-centered classroom. 46 00:08:09.820 --> 00:08:21.620 Lauren Dana: So far we've been talking about assessment choice as a strategy to meet the needs of your learners. But I'd like to take a moment to define what we actually mean by assessment, choice and highlight. Some of its specific benefits 47 00:08:22.380 --> 00:08:37.270 Lauren Dana: 1st want to emphasize assessment choice is not about lowering standards. Instead, it's about maintaining the same learning objectives and assessment criteria while allowing variation in how students demonstrate their knowledge and skills. 48 00:08:37.650 --> 00:08:42.740 Lauren Dana: So, in other words, assessment choice still holds all students to the same high standards. 49 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:48.869 Lauren Dana: But it acknowledges that students bring different contexts, experience and needs to the table. 50 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:57.419 Lauren Dana: When we, as instructors, offer flexible options, we can create opportunities for personalized, meaningful learning that supports engagement. 51 00:08:57.540 --> 00:09:01.749 Lauren Dana: but doesn't compromise academic rigor which is important to all of us. 52 00:09:02.110 --> 00:09:06.999 Lauren Dana: This approach honors both the diversity of our learners and the integrity of our learning. Goals 53 00:09:08.610 --> 00:09:14.569 Lauren Dana: want to briefly review elements that should remain consistent across all assessment choices. 54 00:09:15.500 --> 00:09:26.700 Lauren Dana: The 1st is alignment with course, objectives. No matter the format. All assessment options should require students to demonstrate the key knowledge and skills outlined in your course, goals and objectives 55 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:36.289 Lauren Dana: comparable level of effort. Each option should require a similar amount of time, effort, and cognitive demand to ensure fairness 56 00:09:37.590 --> 00:09:50.749 Lauren Dana: and finally, consistent assessment criteria. While the format may differ, the core expectations should remain the same ideally, you can use a shared rubric across all options with minor adjustments for format specific elements. 57 00:09:51.310 --> 00:09:58.039 Lauren Dana: just as a reminder. These are the 3 things that need to remain consistent and the same even within assessment choice. 58 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:13.319 Lauren Dana: However, there's quite a variety of elements that can vary. My colleague Carrie, is going to explore this in more depth, and how to practically apply it to your course. But I just want to quickly share some of the categories of these elements that can vary just to get you started thinking 59 00:10:13.930 --> 00:10:21.120 Lauren Dana: we have timing and deadlines, waiting options, assessment, format collaboration levels. 60 00:10:21.350 --> 00:10:29.210 Lauren Dana: topic or content, flexibility and even feedback methods. So again, these are all elements that could vary within assessment choice. 61 00:10:31.490 --> 00:10:41.250 Lauren Dana: While we discuss the benefits of Std in your course, I do just want to quickly review again some of the very specific benefits for students when you incorporate assignment choice 62 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:51.270 Lauren Dana: before I list my my benefits. If we could just take a moment in the chat, what are some benefits that you think students may receive when you provide assessment choice. 63 00:10:51.690 --> 00:10:53.440 Lauren Dana: I'll get there in just a moment. 64 00:11:01.040 --> 00:11:09.859 Lauren Dana: Great. You can work towards their strengths right? So students are able to to feel good and skilled, and work towards some of the things that they feel confident with excellent 65 00:11:17.470 --> 00:11:23.409 Lauren Dana: excellence. And yeah, it works with their current state. So their emotion. Right? So what their passions are, what they're feeling 66 00:11:24.180 --> 00:11:33.880 Lauren Dana: that's excellent can relate it to the real world context, which increases motivation. Right? If you're not just doing something in this hypothetical or theoretical world. You're actually using real world context. 67 00:11:35.020 --> 00:11:37.589 Lauren Dana: Emily, great increased agency and ownership. 68 00:11:39.220 --> 00:11:41.699 Lauren Dana: Nice acknowledges, partnerships or teamwork. 69 00:11:41.870 --> 00:11:48.269 Lauren Dana: Yeah, you could definitely build partners or teamwork depending on what the assignment entails. If you're allowed to have that choice. Excellent. 70 00:11:50.730 --> 00:12:09.540 Lauren Dana: great! These are all wonderful. I barely even need to go over my benefits, but I'll just quickly go through and summarize. So again, we have that increased autonomy that we talked about. And so students can take ownership and demonstrate their learning, and this has the benefit of building independence and boosting confidence. 71 00:12:10.020 --> 00:12:18.930 Lauren Dana: personal relevance, which you all already mentioned. Again, this just allows students to bring their own interests, passions, and cultural backgrounds into their work, making it meaningful. 72 00:12:19.280 --> 00:12:31.610 Lauren Dana: real world connections. Again, I think that was Beth in the chat by choosing formats or topics that relate to their own lives and careers. Students deepen their understanding and see the real world value of what they're learning. 73 00:12:32.730 --> 00:12:49.230 Lauren Dana: There's enhanced intrinsic motivation which a lot of you already identified. Right? So if students feel in control and connected to the material, they're more likely to engage thoughtfully and consistently and hopefully, we don't have that drop off at the end of the term, which you can see with motivation. 74 00:12:49.630 --> 00:12:52.969 Lauren Dana: and then finally, more in time invested in learning. 75 00:12:53.290 --> 00:13:00.710 Lauren Dana: Personalized assessments often lead to increased effort. Students are more willing to go the extra mile when the work actually resonates with them. 76 00:13:01.640 --> 00:13:11.860 Lauren Dana: So now we've reviewed some of the theory, some of the benefits. I'm going to hand it over to Carrie, who's going to actually talk about some practical applications, and how you can apply choice in your course. 77 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:26.440 Keri McAvoy: Great thanks, Lauren, and thank you for that background in Sdp. And assessment choice. But, like Lauren said, now I'm going to take us into a dive of how we can provide assessment into our specific courses. 78 00:13:28.432 --> 00:13:41.209 Keri McAvoy: So just like Lauren mentioned earlier providing choice within assessments is important because it empowers students to demonstrate their understanding in ways that align with their strengths, interests, and learning styles. 79 00:13:41.420 --> 00:13:43.990 Keri McAvoy: This approach, fosters greater engagement. 80 00:13:44.190 --> 00:13:53.859 Keri McAvoy: supports diverse learners, and promotes a sense of ownership over the learning process which ultimately leads to more meaningful and authentic demonstrations of knowledge and skills. 81 00:13:54.300 --> 00:14:09.119 Keri McAvoy: Some different assessments that you're probably already using in your courses are things like quizzes, group projects, essays, discussion, forums and presentations. So how can we take these assessments that we're already using and provide choice within them. 82 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:17.520 Keri McAvoy: You could start with topic selection, allowing students to select a topic of interest that's within the scope of the course, content. 83 00:14:18.460 --> 00:14:24.749 Keri McAvoy: giving question options, offering a list of questions or prompts, and students choose a set number to answer 84 00:14:25.250 --> 00:14:39.490 Keri McAvoy: flexible due dates is another option. It could look like giving a time window to complete the assignment. Instead of a fixed deadline, or letting students choose from a range of submission windows or offering something like a Grace period bank for extensions 85 00:14:40.380 --> 00:14:49.230 Keri McAvoy: you could give waiting options, which means allowing students to choose how much specific assessment excuse me how much a specific assessment counts towards their final grade. 86 00:14:50.010 --> 00:14:54.450 Keri McAvoy: Allow students to choose between collaborative versus individual work. 87 00:14:55.240 --> 00:15:04.059 Keri McAvoy: provide a choice of resources like readings, videos, or case studies. And let students choose what they use for an assignment 88 00:15:04.330 --> 00:15:11.340 Keri McAvoy: and providing multiple opportunities, allowing students to resubmit after having received feedback on a submitted assignment. 89 00:15:13.510 --> 00:15:25.150 Keri McAvoy: Let's review this example of a formative assessment where students are asked to respond to a prompt, related to course content, and then reply to a few other peers responses in a discussion forum. 90 00:15:25.530 --> 00:15:32.989 Keri McAvoy: The example, prompt states in your own words, explain one concept from this week's module that you found challenging. 91 00:15:33.090 --> 00:15:35.979 Keri McAvoy: How would you apply it in a real world context? 92 00:15:36.590 --> 00:15:52.600 Keri McAvoy: So how could faculty for this course provide choice to this formative assessment, using the strategies that we discussed. And I believe Emily is going to actually place. Yeah, thank you, Emily. The list of strategies I just reviewed on the last slide. So you can refer back to that. 93 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:59.289 Keri McAvoy: So go ahead and take about a minute to think about it, and then type your answer in the chat, or raise your hand if you prefer that 94 00:16:39.290 --> 00:16:52.970 Keri McAvoy: awesome. Thank you, Celine, allowing students to respond or participate with text or video. So giving a different opportunity for how they respond is a great way to provide choice and assessment. 95 00:16:58.950 --> 00:17:08.899 Keri McAvoy: Yeah, good. So they get to discuss. It's a topic selection essentially right. They get to discuss what within the module, what topic they want to focus on. 96 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:21.109 Keri McAvoy: And mia also likes topic selection as well as a multi-step discussion that begins individual and then breaks out for a deeper dig with a partner. Great, thank you. Guys. 97 00:17:24.589 --> 00:17:26.129 Keri McAvoy: yeah, let's go ahead, Lauren. 98 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:57.340 Keri McAvoy: So now that we've reviewed different ways to provide choice within assessment, let's look even bigger. Picture at providing choice of assessments providing choice of assessments is important, because it acknowledges that students learn and express their understanding in diverse ways by offering multiple assessment formats. Educators can create more inclusive learning environments that accommodate different abilities, preferences, and cultural backgrounds. 99 00:17:57.530 --> 00:18:05.229 Keri McAvoy: This approach raises engagement and ownership, allows students to showcase their strengths and allows for growth in other skill sets. 100 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:27.619 Keri McAvoy: Some ways you can do this are to let students select the medium or format through which they demonstrate learning so kind of like what Celine just said on the last slide. You could have them write a traditional essay, but maybe they would prefer to record a video presentation or design an infographic or slide, deck, or even create a podcast or audio reflection. Instead. 101 00:18:28.870 --> 00:18:51.840 Keri McAvoy: you could also provide choice and assessment type. So letting students select how they're assessed. So maybe instead of a multiple choice quiz, they would actually prefer a short answer, or a creative project, or similar to what I expressed earlier, allowing them to choose group versus individual work, or even graded peer review versus instructor evaluation. Before submitting the final assignment. 102 00:18:53.040 --> 00:18:55.889 Keri McAvoy: you can provide choice in skill emphasis. 103 00:18:56.250 --> 00:19:06.889 Keri McAvoy: so offer assignments that target different skills, like analytical writing, creative thinking, visual communication, oral communication, or even technical proficiency. 104 00:19:07.530 --> 00:19:28.140 Keri McAvoy: You could let students design their assessments so you could have them propose their own project or research question with guidance and approval, and even allow them to design a rubric that they could work collaboratively on with you, or they could choose from a preset criteria to include in that rubric. 105 00:19:28.180 --> 00:19:39.140 Keri McAvoy: So now I'm going to pass it over to Dave Love, who's a faculty at the school of public health. Who's going to share more about how he provides choice of assessment in his course? Dave. 106 00:19:41.590 --> 00:19:50.049 Dave Love: Thanks, Jerry. Those are really interesting ideas, and they just got me thinking whole different way. Thank you. So I want to 107 00:19:50.190 --> 00:19:54.589 Dave Love: give you a quick overview of the course I teach in the 3rd term. 108 00:19:54.940 --> 00:19:59.400 Dave Love: It's called seafood and public health, global trade nutrition and the environment. 109 00:20:00.153 --> 00:20:06.350 Dave Love: We we, you get a lot of environmental health students and international health students. 110 00:20:06.889 --> 00:20:13.919 Dave Love: It's an online course. And so that's that's important. When I get into sharing some of the assessment types. 111 00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:23.589 Dave Love: so what we heard from students was they liked the course, but they wanted more flexibility in the types and number of assignments. 112 00:20:23.730 --> 00:20:27.419 Dave Love: and we heard that from them through their end of year feedback! 113 00:20:29.010 --> 00:20:33.379 Dave Love: And that's what we that's what we heard. And then we also felt like 114 00:20:34.002 --> 00:20:40.330 Dave Love: we had some concerns about how students were were dealing with assignments around the use of AI 115 00:20:40.814 --> 00:20:43.059 Dave Love: Some of the assignments that we 116 00:20:43.230 --> 00:20:50.710 Dave Love: we gave were just really writing heavy, and they were hard to review and grade. 117 00:20:50.940 --> 00:21:05.869 Dave Love: And it just wasn't as much. I wasn't having a lot of fun in the grading, as I don't know if grading can ever be fun, but it was just a sort of droll, so I wanted to think of some new ideas that made it more fun for me to be a teacher 118 00:21:06.350 --> 00:21:07.509 Dave Love: next slide. 119 00:21:09.670 --> 00:21:18.480 Dave Love: So I'll tell you a little bit about the course itself, and sort of the the scales in the course, so that you can understand just different assessments 120 00:21:18.850 --> 00:21:31.610 Dave Love: options. So we have because it's majority online, we have a lot of asynchronous content. But we give it to them in different ways. We have recorded lectures from faculty and outside experts. 121 00:21:31.860 --> 00:21:43.180 Dave Love: but then layered on top of that, I do interviews with experts. So folks who have written key papers that we make have the students read. They're often our interviews with those folks. They're about 10 min long. 122 00:21:43.420 --> 00:22:00.420 Dave Love: We plug in different documentaries that are really well done, that cover the topic and lots of short videos so that students can see what they're what these different simply production methods are because they may not be familiar with with them. 123 00:22:01.408 --> 00:22:11.379 Dave Love: We have some asynchronous interactions, mostly as discussion forums, hosts, and some of this is just to for students who might miss a live talk 124 00:22:11.510 --> 00:22:13.610 Dave Love: they can plug in there. 125 00:22:14.510 --> 00:22:17.730 Dave Love: We also have a journal club and an asynchronous discussion. 126 00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:20.080 Dave Love: If students miss the general pill. 127 00:22:20.320 --> 00:22:24.382 Dave Love: and then we have bi-weekly live talks. So 128 00:22:25.770 --> 00:22:40.240 Dave Love: and also bi-weekly journal. So what I mean by bi-weekly is, every 2 weeks we do a live talk, and then on the odd week we slip a journal club in to give them a time slot so they can interact with each other in in real time. 129 00:22:41.910 --> 00:22:44.990 Dave Love: although virtually so. 130 00:22:45.110 --> 00:23:02.779 Dave Love: we do a written assignment which is a big part of it. This is historically been a big part of their grade. We we break up the written assignment into 4 weekly assignments that are stretched out throughout the course, so they'll do one assignment every 2 weeks. 131 00:23:04.130 --> 00:23:11.720 Dave Love: And we started with just strictly, you know. Give me a thousand or 1,500 word essay with references. 132 00:23:11.890 --> 00:23:16.559 Dave Love: and and make it look like you know a Mini term paper. 133 00:23:17.030 --> 00:23:32.389 Dave Love: And we did that for a couple of years. And and it worked okay. But then we see people kind of drift into this, maybe AI space where we're seeing answers that aren't well thought out. And you know, students that actually come to me and said, I really do want to do something besides an essay. 134 00:23:33.690 --> 00:23:34.315 Dave Love: So 135 00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:42.110 Dave Love: Last year a student came and said, Can I do an infographic instead of an essay? 136 00:23:42.809 --> 00:23:51.379 Dave Love: And I think I brought it to Lauren. And I said, This is interesting. How do I grade this? So we talked a little bit about 137 00:23:51.620 --> 00:23:54.149 Dave Love: how to submit something like that how to grade it. 138 00:23:54.490 --> 00:24:04.509 Dave Love: It was sort of a proof of concept. Last year, and then this year we went crazy and gave students lots of options. Every assignment had multiple modes they could submit. 139 00:24:06.100 --> 00:24:09.490 Dave Love: So, for example, here's some options that we did for our course. 140 00:24:09.970 --> 00:24:13.700 Dave Love: students could write an essa, a traditional essay with references. 141 00:24:14.110 --> 00:24:19.630 Dave Love: or they could write a policy memo and some tweets to help push out their message in social media 142 00:24:20.571 --> 00:24:25.209 Dave Love: Brought certain assignments. They could resign, write a resilience action plan. 143 00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:27.719 Dave Love: They could give a persuasive argument. 144 00:24:28.233 --> 00:24:34.920 Dave Love: They could do an infographic now to grade that infographic. It can't just be pictures. I also ask them to give references. 145 00:24:35.387 --> 00:24:37.470 Dave Love: Like a full reference list of 146 00:24:37.600 --> 00:24:42.899 Dave Love: the sources that they use to to think about these images and and the statistics. 147 00:24:43.490 --> 00:24:51.750 Dave Love: If anybody wants to do more Powerpoint presentations, they can do a Powerpoint. But it's not just any kind of Powerpoint. I actually I asked them to think. 148 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:59.460 Dave Love: if they are within, within the Ministry of Health of a country, to make a Powerpoint that they could share with their with their supervisors. 149 00:24:59.820 --> 00:25:04.209 Dave Love: So they have something when they're thinking about how to the motivation. 150 00:25:04.330 --> 00:25:12.560 Dave Love: One assignment students could write, develop a menu that was a menu for food for a local elementary school. 151 00:25:13.100 --> 00:25:19.770 Dave Love: and then another one. They could develop a survey, a survey tool to a hypothetical study population. 152 00:25:20.629 --> 00:25:22.189 Dave Love: Okay. Next slide. 153 00:25:22.340 --> 00:25:27.620 Dave Love: Think I'll give him some example of what some of these things look like. Yeah, okay. So 154 00:25:27.870 --> 00:25:33.060 Dave Love: on. The left is is an infographic. The student submitted for an assignment. 155 00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:36.899 Dave Love: and this was alongside other students who also, who submitted essays 156 00:25:37.050 --> 00:25:38.884 Dave Love: and then at the right is 157 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:47.860 Dave Love: proposed menu for an elementary school in which the task was to incorporate local aquatic foods. 158 00:25:48.340 --> 00:25:50.310 Dave Love: and and give us 159 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:58.270 Dave Love: what types of foods would you incorporate, and the reasons why nutritional benefits or the local availability? 160 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:06.079 Dave Love: And then I also asked for a paragraph header before the the menu, so they could kind of unpack the reasons why they made those choices. 161 00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:12.129 Dave Love: And that's really helpful in terms of grading, because it's very hard to grade these nontraditional things. 162 00:26:12.604 --> 00:26:18.799 Dave Love: You really have to think about the rubric and then make the rubric work for multiple types of 163 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.150 Dave Love: of assignments next slide. 164 00:26:22.870 --> 00:26:26.320 Dave Love: We also added something interesting. This year 165 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.120 Dave Love: we were, we wanted to do an oral exam. 166 00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:33.579 Dave Love: because we want to. AI try to AI proof our course. 167 00:26:33.760 --> 00:26:40.180 Dave Love: And so, instead of what had traditionally been a Powerpoint presentation in front of class. 168 00:26:40.430 --> 00:26:49.439 Dave Love: which really wasn't very satisfying for the students to do, because 5 min really wasn't enough. But we needed to get everybody through in one. You know, one long class period. 169 00:26:50.107 --> 00:27:04.699 Dave Love: Sometimes students on this this final assignment were like recording it and emailing it to us instead of showing up for the in-class presentation. This was just wasn't working. So we switched gears, and we did this 15 min oral exam. 170 00:27:05.280 --> 00:27:09.869 Dave Love: We had 3 questions and we had 2 graders. 171 00:27:10.010 --> 00:27:15.070 Dave Love: They didn't get the questions until they entered the exam room zoom room 172 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.160 Dave Love: And the students did great. They really 173 00:27:20.500 --> 00:27:23.949 Dave Love: so showed us what they had learned over the over the terms 174 00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:37.619 Dave Love: to help get them ready for that type of assignment. We gave them a lot of information front loaded from day one on what this oral exam is going to look like. Why we need to do it, how to prepare 175 00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:46.189 Dave Love: we scheduled time before the week before, so that students could have a practice session. 176 00:27:47.001 --> 00:27:50.860 Dave Love: To work on their oral exam skills. Ask any questions of us, 177 00:27:52.660 --> 00:28:07.009 Dave Love: and and at the end of the oral exam we had, we tacked on an extra 5 min that we didn't tell them about, but we sort of let them deep, you know. Debrief the course for us, and said, Tell us what you thought of the course. What what can we do better? 178 00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:16.245 Dave Love: We got the most amazing feedback. So I'm really excited about next year and offering that feedback because you don't always get, you know, the feedback you get from the written 179 00:28:17.564 --> 00:28:21.460 Dave Love: written feedback. It's you know you get it, but you don't. 180 00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:24.779 Dave Love: You don't. It's sometimes better just to hear it than to read it. 181 00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:30.810 Dave Love: because they can be a little bit more nuanced with their critique plus. They're already done with the course, so they can tell you what they really think. 182 00:28:32.620 --> 00:28:35.110 Dave Love: So I really love the oral exam. 183 00:28:35.580 --> 00:28:44.269 Dave Love: One thing to note is that non-english language speakers had a harder time with the oral exam. 184 00:28:44.560 --> 00:28:53.160 Dave Love: and it it was harder for them to express themselves in a because of 185 00:28:53.910 --> 00:28:57.170 Dave Love: some of these ideas are quite complex and nuanced. 186 00:28:57.500 --> 00:29:07.769 Dave Love: and getting a question where they don't have time to sit and think, we have to respond right away, was challenging. So that's something we're going to have to think about for next year. How do we 187 00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:12.429 Dave Love: of think about this in the context of non-english language speakers? 188 00:29:13.610 --> 00:29:17.410 Dave Love: So that is there if there is a next slide I mentioned? 189 00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:20.750 Dave Love: Alright. 190 00:29:21.450 --> 00:29:30.189 Dave Love: okay. So we got really great feedback, and this was not at the end of oral exam. This is the the survey at the end of the course 191 00:29:30.570 --> 00:29:36.100 Dave Love: overall. Students really liked it, and they love these new assessments. So 192 00:29:36.530 --> 00:29:43.850 Dave Love: it was kind of a big. We went out on a big limb to dry out new assessments had no clue if they're going to work. 193 00:29:44.550 --> 00:29:46.600 Dave Love: had no clue how to grade them. 194 00:29:47.180 --> 00:29:49.300 Dave Love: but it turns out they're not. It's not that hard. 195 00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:53.430 Dave Love: So I would say, if you're thinking about trying new assessments 196 00:29:53.610 --> 00:29:59.549 Dave Love: go for it. The students are really hungry for new ways to show what they show what they know. 197 00:30:00.733 --> 00:30:06.749 Dave Love: Here's some quotes and I'll just let you. You read read these quotes if you'd like 198 00:30:14.560 --> 00:30:32.010 Lauren Dana: Great. Thank you, Dave, and I know Dave is being humble, but his reviews, evaluations were excellent. I know all of you that teach. It's not easy to get a hundred percent excellent on assessments and course. So the students, it really paid off all the work you did in the course and offering that assessment choice 199 00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:35.940 Lauren Dana: great. So now I can pass it over to. Oh, sorry, Dave, go ahead. 200 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:41.669 Dave Love: What one other thing is. Also listen to your ta. Some of these assessment ideas came from the Ta. 201 00:30:42.340 --> 00:30:52.720 Dave Love: Who was a current doctoral student and knows what it's like to go through the courses as a learner. So you know, listen to your ta. If you have, do you want to bounce ideas off anybody. You know. 202 00:30:53.780 --> 00:30:59.810 Dave Love: Lauren was great to bounce ideas, I'll help. And and our ta was asked. So those makes it really easy for me. 203 00:31:01.330 --> 00:31:12.030 Lauren Dana: Great. Thank you. That's a great great point, too. It's gonna be super helpful. Great, thank you, Dave. So I'm gonna pass it quickly over to Carrie, and we're gonna try to get you to put this to work in a very short activity. 204 00:31:12.810 --> 00:31:33.169 Keri McAvoy: Yeah, thank you, Lauren. And I do want to just note that. Mia, I did see your question in there. We're just gonna get through this activity and kind of the wrap up of the 1st half of the picnic Pd session, and then the second half of our picnic pd session is when we're gonna have our QA. For anyone who has questions for Dave or Lauren and myself. 205 00:31:34.460 --> 00:31:39.184 Keri McAvoy: So I did just want to acknowledge that I see that so really quick 206 00:31:40.040 --> 00:32:04.589 Keri McAvoy: So I want you to take a second. I know we went through a lot of information, but I want you to think from courses, past or present, select an assignment from one of your courses and using some of the strategies that we've discussed today, whether that's choice within or choice of assessment, identify one, maybe 2 ways, that you could add those choices within that assessment of your choice 207 00:32:05.030 --> 00:32:32.529 Keri McAvoy: and share your ideas in the chat or out loud with the group. I think Emily's going to add a list in the chat. Let me know if you need me to do that, Emily. That's going to go through. Thank you. Some of those things we went through today. But don't. Our lists are not the things we went over today are that's not restrictive. If you listen to Dave, or thought of other ways that you're already providing choice within or of assessment, please. 208 00:32:32.896 --> 00:32:41.313 Keri McAvoy: Include that in in your response. So Lauren's gonna play some music. We're gonna wait a few minutes and feel free to 209 00:32:41.700 --> 00:32:45.659 Keri McAvoy: type your response in the chat, or raise your hand, and we'll call on you. 210 00:33:51.470 --> 00:34:02.659 Keri McAvoy: Okay, great thanks, Lauren. I know we're we're rushing here a little bit. I'm asking you to do a lot in a short amount of time, but we are over our kind of 1st 30 min. 211 00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:21.390 Keri McAvoy: 30 min of this session. So if anyone would like to raise their hand and share what they think or type in the chat, how could you provide choice within, or choice of an assessment that you've given in in one of your courses, past or present. 212 00:34:38.609 --> 00:34:53.390 Keri McAvoy: Okay, mia, says I'm working with a faculty now that she's also co-taught to create options for gathering needs, assessment data and curriculum development. The students are tasked with developing an educational plan and gathering stakeholder feedback. 213 00:34:53.389 --> 00:35:14.270 Keri McAvoy: And it's sometimes a challenge. We are playing with ideas for offering options, to do outreach to real people or to create profiles and use AI to craft context and skill gaps. I think that's great. Mia, I think anytime you incorporate people, real people from the outside world, it always gets student buy in. 214 00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:27.650 Keri McAvoy: Okay, amazing. So I'm gonna pass it back to Lauren, who's just gonna go through some key takeaways and then we're gonna dive into our QA session. 215 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:38.209 Lauren Dana: Great. Thank you, Carrie. So before we head into Q. And A, I just want to remind you of a few things so choice in assessments increases autonomy, relatedness and competence. 216 00:35:38.990 --> 00:35:50.850 Lauren Dana: assessment, choice maintains the same learning objectives. So, for example, Dave's course met all the same learning, objectives, and assessment criteria that allowed variation, and how students demonstrate their knowledge and skills. 217 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:57.650 Lauren Dana: Very, very astute. We went over how you can provide choice within assessments or a choice of assessments. 218 00:35:58.010 --> 00:36:11.219 Lauren Dana: and as Dave's evaluations showed, students will value absolutely any areas of your course when you add choice, it doesn't mean you need to do the entire course, but even one or 2 assignments where you have choice will be valued. 219 00:36:12.190 --> 00:36:19.880 Lauren Dana: Okay, so we have our references. And I'm now just gonna quickly turn it over to Emily. Who's going to give a couple more details before we get to Q. And A. 220 00:36:20.470 --> 00:36:36.319 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: Thank you all again. So much for joining us. We really value your feedback on the workshop today. So if you can, we would love to hear from you. I'll put the link in the chat in just a minute, or you can use the QR. Code 221 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:41.059 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: also. Go ahead 222 00:36:43.250 --> 00:37:06.399 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: Sorry I'll get the chat in there or the link in there in just a second. I'm sorry, you guys, we have other professional development options with Ctl, including Ta. Training, which has a rolling admission. We'd love for you to join and be part of that with us. We also have lots of workshops offered by Ctl. By Lauren and Carrie and the rest of our team. 223 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:16.310 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: either synchronously or on demand. We have a Ctl blog as well with up-to-date resources. Thank you, Carrie. 224 00:37:16.310 --> 00:37:26.890 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: for the links in the chat. So Carrie put the evaluation form in there, as well as the links to the essentials course, the training for faculty and tas as well as Ctl. Events in the blog. 225 00:37:27.100 --> 00:37:42.729 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: And now I'll pass back to Lauren and Carrie. We're here for some office, and Dave. Sorry, Dave didn't forget you. We're here for some office hours, I know. Actually, Dave's. Dave's the main show. People are excited to ask you about how it's worked in your class. So thank you. 226 00:37:43.010 --> 00:38:11.189 Keri McAvoy: Yeah. Mia had to jump off, but I did want to go through the questions she asked a few minutes ago, just so she can come back to them in the recording but these are for you, Dave, he says. I have 2 questions about the assignment with format options. One. Did you have students share their assignments? Final version with their peers, too? The different approaches are likely very interesting. And 2, did you have rubrics for the grading. If yes, were they different for each format option. 227 00:38:11.540 --> 00:38:16.919 Dave Love: Yeah. So 1st question, did we did students do peer review? 228 00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:27.869 Dave Love: We had in early years the course like the 1st second year we did do peer review. We found this to be very challenging for 2 reasons. 229 00:38:28.040 --> 00:38:30.579 Dave Love: What happens when a student is late to submit 230 00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:54.920 Dave Love: and they have a peer review partner who's frustrated because, hey, I want to review. But there's nothing for me to review. And then the flip side is what happens. If the peer reviewer just doesn't show up. You know your buddy doesn't review. How do we grade this? What do we do with this information? Where you know other students are getting the benefit of having somebody review to review where in other cases 231 00:38:55.030 --> 00:38:56.820 Dave Love: there's a mismatch in timing. 232 00:38:57.080 --> 00:38:59.379 Dave Love: And so that was really frustrating for us. 233 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:02.780 Dave Love: So we dropped the Peer Review component. 234 00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:13.629 Dave Love: We've been toying around with other ideas about how to have peer interaction. And we're thinking about maybe next year, creating like interest groups 235 00:39:13.780 --> 00:39:33.669 Dave Love: where students with similar interests can be group can self organize. For example, our assignments are based on geography. You pick a country, and there's 4 countries to pick to choose from. So maybe we'll have continent groups and everybody who's who joined the countries in Asia can work together and can. And you know, kind of interact. 236 00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:36.199 Dave Love: So that's maybe one way we're going to try to do this. 237 00:39:36.797 --> 00:39:40.070 Dave Love: But not not do peer grading for 238 00:39:40.210 --> 00:39:42.739 Dave Love: anything that we have to like check? 239 00:39:43.910 --> 00:39:47.329 Dave Love: And then the other question was, what was it? What was that? 240 00:39:47.330 --> 00:39:53.170 Keri McAvoy: It was, did you have rubrics? And if yes, were they different for each format option. 241 00:39:53.370 --> 00:40:04.120 Dave Love: Yeah, the rubrics were the same for all format options, and I think that was really important for grading, particularly because I think there was a question earlier about how many are in the course we have about 20, 242 00:40:04.250 --> 00:40:16.489 Dave Love: and then we have a team of I'm the lead instructor. We got 2 co-instructors and a ta. So all 4 of us want to have our hand in grading. So if you use the same rubric, it makes it a lot easier for grading. 243 00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:26.319 Keri McAvoy: Awesome. Thank you. And Celine had a question before she left, which you just answered. So I am seeing 244 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:38.000 Keri McAvoy: Lou asked. How did you make sure that the assessment options are at the same or similar level of difficulty? Essentially. 245 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.691 Dave Love: Yeah, that's a really really good question. 246 00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:43.678 Dave Love: it's hard to do that. 247 00:40:44.590 --> 00:40:48.960 Dave Love: you know, I'm just trying to imagine how much time they're going to invest in the assignment. 248 00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:58.619 Dave Love: some students are better at writing essays, and and they might choose that option because they like that. Other students think more visually. 249 00:40:58.850 --> 00:41:01.989 Dave Love: You know, if you think about an infographic 250 00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:04.690 Dave Love: and a thousand word essay, you know 251 00:41:05.620 --> 00:41:08.709 Dave Love: all the key points that are in the essay 252 00:41:08.830 --> 00:41:11.399 Dave Love: could appear or should appear in the infographic 253 00:41:13.330 --> 00:41:17.710 Dave Love: What's different about the infographic is how those ideas relate to each other. 254 00:41:19.770 --> 00:41:24.109 Dave Love: It's tough. It's really tough to give to give assignments that have the the same amount of time. 255 00:41:24.430 --> 00:41:25.640 Dave Love: Yeah. 256 00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:32.019 Dave Love: I don't know. I mean, I think that comes with just iteratively doing trying things out, you know. 257 00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:42.729 Dave Love: and and getting better at refining how you pitch the the assignments and and the criteria that you're grading on so that you make it rigorous. 258 00:41:43.276 --> 00:41:45.069 Dave Love: For the people who aren't doing essays. 259 00:41:46.950 --> 00:41:47.899 Keri McAvoy: Thank you, dear. 260 00:41:48.613 --> 00:41:55.199 Keri McAvoy: So we don't have any more questions in the chat. Did anyone else want to raise their hand or type in the chat. Emily, go ahead. 261 00:41:56.734 --> 00:42:08.780 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: I love all the assignment options, and I think your class is a little unique. It's it's not something we see super commonly at the school. Do the students get a chance to see each other's 262 00:42:09.040 --> 00:42:17.230 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: work like each other's infographic? And the menu and I just feel like they're cool. So it would be cool to see your peers assignments. 263 00:42:17.230 --> 00:42:27.140 Dave Love: Yeah. So I did ask some of the students who created, like the the best products this year if they'd be willing to share with students next year. 264 00:42:27.641 --> 00:42:32.419 Dave Love: So I've got those I've got like held onto them. Got them saved in a little folder. 265 00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:36.819 Dave Love: The trick is, how do you share things without? 266 00:42:37.230 --> 00:42:43.239 Dave Love: You know, if I share, like the the work products that I might have shared the countries 267 00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:47.400 Dave Love: I might have to redo, what countries the assignments come from. 268 00:42:47.810 --> 00:42:53.220 Dave Love: So that's gonna be tricky. So it's like I could share. But then I might have to change. 269 00:42:53.870 --> 00:42:58.560 Dave Love: That'd be a little bit more work for for our, you know, teaching team to like. 270 00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:01.230 Dave Love: bring it. Bring that in. 271 00:43:01.780 --> 00:43:03.195 Dave Love: So I don't know. 272 00:43:04.490 --> 00:43:08.520 Dave Love: Yeah, that's gonna be a hard one. Yeah. 273 00:43:10.430 --> 00:43:21.309 Dave Love: The other thing that just in terms of how the students felt about the course is how quick you can return. That 1st assignment is going to be a good indicator of how much they 274 00:43:21.510 --> 00:43:29.689 Dave Love: they're gonna enjoy that those assignments? I think. So. We made a really big push to return the 1st assignment within 5 days. 275 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:36.650 Dave Love: and really be clear about them about when they can expect to get things returned of. 276 00:43:37.110 --> 00:43:43.890 Dave Love: You know they really it's a it's a quick turn for the graders, but it's I think it's important to show them that, like we're invested, too. 277 00:43:44.645 --> 00:43:53.749 Dave Love: So it's not just what you assign. But hey? You could assign the the greatest things ever. But if it takes you 4 weeks to turn around a grade, they're gonna be frustrated. 278 00:43:54.380 --> 00:43:57.600 Dave Love: So there's there's more to it than just the front end. 279 00:43:58.700 --> 00:43:59.390 Dave Love: Yeah. 280 00:43:59.740 --> 00:44:09.910 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: I have another question. If nobody else has questions, I think this is awesome. So I have another question. Can you talk a little bit about the time investment, because it seems like having that 281 00:44:10.290 --> 00:44:15.599 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: you'd have to give a lot of direction. Sorry did you lose me? 282 00:44:15.830 --> 00:44:16.899 Dave Love: Oh, no, I I can hear you. 283 00:44:16.900 --> 00:44:17.665 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: Okay, 284 00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:37.639 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: you'd have to like design, a lot of instructions and things. And then, can you just talk about like, is it a lot more work on the faculty's part to to do all that? Or did you find that then other parts were easier? How did the time investment change for you. 285 00:44:38.740 --> 00:44:41.769 Dave Love: Yeah, writing clear instructions and having the rubric. 286 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:48.739 Dave Love: And Lauren was really helpful at sharing some rubric ideas. So, having the instructions and the rubric all there 287 00:44:48.850 --> 00:44:57.050 Dave Love: and then. You know, going over it during the live talks, so saving time and live talks to go over, and also 288 00:44:57.340 --> 00:45:00.773 Dave Love: just being open to answering any kind of questions that come in. 289 00:45:02.070 --> 00:45:06.370 Dave Love: yeah, students, you know, they know how to write the essay. But then these other things they're just. 290 00:45:06.770 --> 00:45:11.729 Dave Love: is it? Okay? How do I do this? So yeah, you have to answer questions and and a little bit of hand holding. 291 00:45:12.100 --> 00:45:15.119 Dave Love: And the oral exam. Took a lot of handholding. 292 00:45:15.420 --> 00:45:17.700 Dave Love: They were students that were not 293 00:45:17.970 --> 00:45:22.209 Dave Love: excited about it. But then, you know, they in the end they loved it like 294 00:45:22.470 --> 00:45:26.790 Dave Love: they, I said, when do you get to have spend 15 min on your final? 295 00:45:26.990 --> 00:45:27.790 Dave Love: You know 296 00:45:29.250 --> 00:45:35.990 Dave Love: it's a huge time savings, plus. They scored really well, because they know the material they've been taking the class. 297 00:45:37.450 --> 00:45:41.500 Dave Love: I think one of the big challenges for us is synchronous versus asynchronous 298 00:45:41.995 --> 00:45:48.159 Dave Love: even our even so, only about half the folks could make it to the synchronous. 299 00:45:48.370 --> 00:45:50.690 Dave Love: you know, lectures. 300 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:56.739 Dave Love: So we've got 20 students, but we know from the beginning only 10 can make it on consistently. 301 00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:08.099 Dave Love: and it's really hard to connect with those, those asynchronous, the distance students who never come to the synchronous stuff. So the 1st time we see them is the final exam. And that's really hard. 302 00:46:09.220 --> 00:46:13.440 Dave Love: Yeah, Kerry. And there's also Beth. 303 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:22.929 Keri McAvoy: Oh, yeah, I'll let Beth. I'll read Beth's, and then I'll if we can get to mine. I will. Beth said. I like peer review. When one of your los is to 304 00:46:23.050 --> 00:46:38.939 Keri McAvoy: learning objectives is to build mentorship skills. Canvas has a nice peer review feature, and I like to incorporate 2 way. Peer review reflections for both the receiver and reviewer, but not for all assignments. Just the highest one that's awesome. Thank you, Beth, for that 305 00:46:39.547 --> 00:46:46.700 Keri McAvoy: and then thoughts on using an AI bot to sort and make an initial assessment of the submissions. 306 00:46:47.363 --> 00:46:58.875 Keri McAvoy: applying similar criteria and assigned weights to assist the instructor in conducting the final assessment, and grading thoughts. 307 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.790 Dave Love: Yeah, that's a that's a that's an idea on 308 00:47:05.970 --> 00:47:07.845 Dave Love: on this, on Beth's comment. 309 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.459 Dave Love: you know, maybe there's a way to do it so that you don't have to. You don't pair the people up. 310 00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:16.395 Dave Love: You could just 311 00:47:17.450 --> 00:47:21.839 Dave Love: If you're ready to to do a peer review, you just grab somebody's paper and peer review it. 312 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:22.390 Beth Romanski: Yeah. 313 00:47:22.390 --> 00:47:23.379 Dave Love: Push it back in. 314 00:47:23.380 --> 00:47:23.940 Beth Romanski: Yeah. 315 00:47:23.940 --> 00:47:25.169 Dave Love: Pairing was the problem. 316 00:47:25.170 --> 00:47:36.020 Beth Romanski: Yeah, and what's nice about that? Well, see, I have an advantage. Because I I'm using canvas. And so it the tool itself automatically does that 317 00:47:36.180 --> 00:47:52.869 Beth Romanski: so that you know, you'd have to. Manually. I'm not as familiar with course, plus, but that's an idea, because the pairing could be an issue. If you get a pair, you know, you know it doesn't work out, but the canvas tool you can set it so that it automatically assigns students to peer review. 318 00:47:53.230 --> 00:48:15.479 Beth Romanski: You know it'll just do that itself, or you can manually, as the instructor do it. But I do like I learned this from another webinar, which, by the way, I just want to do a shout out here, I love these little sessions that you host in the summer. Thank you for organizing. But one thing that I've actually thought about more recently, from a session I took was the reciprocal Peer Review. 319 00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:44.500 Beth Romanski: Because oftentimes you're only thinking about it one way, but to have the person who's reviewing to reflect on that process, you know, have some prompts along with the actual review of the assessment. That seems to, you know, sort of increase and reinforce the metacognition in the process of being a peer reviewer. So it creates more accountability that they have to actually not just give like Oh, good, you know, like some peer reviews may not be useful because they haven't really taken the time 320 00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:57.569 Beth Romanski: to do a thorough job. So that's another thing that I learned as a tip. And that's what I meant about the 2 way it's like, what was it like receiving feedback? How are you going to use it? Then also, what was it like giving feedback? And then you know that process. 321 00:49:02.560 --> 00:49:08.180 Keri McAvoy: Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you so much, Beth, and thank you for attending and for the the kudos for these Pd. 322 00:49:08.180 --> 00:49:11.830 Beth Romanski: I love them. You learn so much from each other, and it's great. 323 00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:14.069 Keri McAvoy: They? They really are great. 324 00:49:14.642 --> 00:49:43.317 Keri McAvoy: So I just wanna reiterate and Rikito, I think. Tell me, let me know if I'm expressing this incorrectly, but I think their question was and this could, I think, could be to Dave or myself, and Lauren, who may have just had dropped off. What are our thoughts? This could be open to the audience. Really, what are our thoughts on essentially using AI to kind of make initial 325 00:49:44.310 --> 00:49:47.440 Keri McAvoy: assessment or initial 326 00:49:48.510 --> 00:50:01.190 Keri McAvoy: to assist the instructor in conducting the final assessment and grading and what? And I guess, potentially thinking, because these are so different could kind of putting them into AI help you. 327 00:50:01.470 --> 00:50:05.730 Keri McAvoy: norm the grading a little bit. I I think that's what 328 00:50:06.520 --> 00:50:10.479 Keri McAvoy: is being expressed in the chat. Please tell me if I am wrong. 329 00:50:10.885 --> 00:50:31.160 enriquito lu: Yeah, that was the point where in, if you have a variety of media as well as approaches, whether it's Powerpoint, visual or presentation, etc. for an instructor or trainer the challenges of always going to be time that they can put into 330 00:50:31.992 --> 00:50:53.120 enriquito lu: really, honestly assessing those submissions. So I was just thinking that with all of the chat, with all of the AI bots that are now coming for the different applications that are available is, how can we use AI to initially assess and just create a norm so that 331 00:50:53.754 --> 00:51:04.559 enriquito lu: it assists more the trainer or the instructor make an honest assessment of these admissions, and grade them accordingly. 332 00:51:06.710 --> 00:51:10.639 Keri McAvoy: I'm gonna let Beth go 1st because she raised her hand. Go ahead, Beth. 333 00:51:11.100 --> 00:51:27.649 Beth Romanski: Well, you all the experts. But I I do have a little bit of instruction design background that may be helpful. One thing that I've been working on is a new fellowship curriculum that has what you're all talking about, which is a very flexible capstone project. 334 00:51:28.030 --> 00:51:42.599 Beth Romanski: And so what I was trying to think about is that same question. So we're not going to have a key like a primary instructor. So that also kind of gives some complexities to it. So I've looked at various types of rubrics for 335 00:51:42.680 --> 00:51:59.409 Beth Romanski: capstone projects and what the learning objectives are in terms of just giving scientific presentations, and then both written and oral and visual form. And I've created a rubric. That sort of holistically measures those things without it being a specific. 336 00:51:59.410 --> 00:52:18.339 Beth Romanski: like infographic or a power, you know, like something that's so prescriptive. And I actually used suggestions from AI to help me combine all of the themes in these rubrics that I researched to kind of come up with that sort of overarching rubric that then levels 337 00:52:18.340 --> 00:52:32.390 Beth Romanski: things out just more about like visual elements. But it doesn't specify what type of visual element. So that's what I'm going to try to pilot and see how it goes. So that's just one suggestion, but very interested in learning more about what everybody else is doing. 338 00:52:35.660 --> 00:52:40.029 Keri McAvoy: Great. Thank you for sharing Beth. Emily, I saw your hand was raised. You're good. Okay. 339 00:52:41.900 --> 00:52:44.390 Keri McAvoy: Any other questions. 340 00:52:44.790 --> 00:52:48.139 Keri McAvoy: Where are we on time. We have a few more minutes. 341 00:52:50.170 --> 00:53:16.579 Keri McAvoy: I think I have one super quick question for Dave, because you had one of you had a note on your slide, but I don't think you mentioned it. How you allowed students to choose to drop one of their assignments. Could you talk a little bit more on this. Did you let them choose this? Did they have to choose it at a certain time? Did they have to submit all the assignments and have them graded first, st and then they could drop. The lowest score. Did. Was this the same thing they had to do? Just could you touch on this just a little bit. 342 00:53:16.580 --> 00:53:31.000 Dave Love: Yeah, they we gave. So we they had these written assignments, or a big assignment do every 2 weeks. We? So that's 4 total. We let them do 3 out of the 4 so they could. They could not submit one 343 00:53:31.494 --> 00:53:35.010 Dave Love: it wasn't that they all they all got graded, and they could drop the lowest 344 00:53:35.649 --> 00:53:41.939 Dave Love: and this was more in response to student feedback that we were. The workload was 345 00:53:42.910 --> 00:53:46.099 Dave Love: really intense. I mean, it's a 3 3 credit course. 346 00:53:46.290 --> 00:53:49.470 Dave Love: and we were so we were on a 2 credit course, and we were kind of 347 00:53:49.620 --> 00:53:58.249 Dave Love: on the verge of being a 3. And then, because there's so much work. And we said, Well, we'll just make it a 3. But I think some students come into it and they go. Oh, this is a lot. 348 00:53:58.430 --> 00:54:02.639 Dave Love: So that was an option to give them less, but it really hurts when they drop 349 00:54:03.120 --> 00:54:10.389 Dave Love: any of them, but particularly like the 3rd or the 4, th because I know those are really like more synthesis based like 350 00:54:10.540 --> 00:54:16.240 Dave Love: that come into this end of the course. They're really synthesizing information when they drop that last one. It's like, Oh. 351 00:54:16.680 --> 00:54:19.959 Dave Love: you know, like like, Oh, you know. 352 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:24.819 Dave Love: put this like dagger in my heart. Don't! Don't do, don't drop the last one. 353 00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:31.380 Dave Love: But they sometimes, you know, workflow and life and crazy stuff happens, and they need to drop. 354 00:54:31.950 --> 00:54:34.289 Dave Love: And you know, it's just the way it is. I think 355 00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:37.688 Dave Love: it's just acknowledging that you know. 356 00:54:38.940 --> 00:54:44.770 Dave Love: that we've got students who have lots of like Lauren shared 357 00:54:45.160 --> 00:54:50.679 Dave Love: wide range age distribution, and also some folks who are not full-time students. 358 00:54:52.330 --> 00:55:01.669 Keri McAvoy: Thank you. And Beth. Asked a question to add on to that, she said. Do you see different outcomes when students drop one? And it's I was actually thinking this as well. So 359 00:55:01.910 --> 00:55:16.959 Keri McAvoy: do you see? You know, maybe students decide to drop the second assignment. Do you see? Maybe in their final assignment that they it's not as strong as others who didn't decide to drop, or any anything in that 360 00:55:17.190 --> 00:55:18.060 Keri McAvoy: realm. 361 00:55:19.720 --> 00:55:26.990 Dave Love: it's hard. I don't have a big end to draw from, but when students drops, when a student drops the 1st assignment, that's a big red flag. 362 00:55:27.140 --> 00:55:31.360 Dave Love: So I had one student drop the 1st assignment because he had a work trip. 363 00:55:31.570 --> 00:55:36.849 Dave Love: and I actually gave him because the first, st the second assignment builds on the first.st 364 00:55:37.160 --> 00:55:46.329 Dave Love: So I did something that was like a little bit out of the ordinary. I gave him the first.st He missed the 1st time, but I gave him somebody else's 1st assignment 365 00:55:47.122 --> 00:55:52.270 Dave Love: from a past year. Because, I said, if you really need this, this is like foundational to. 366 00:55:52.410 --> 00:56:01.010 Dave Love: He's writing about food security in Nigeria, and he needs to know this stuff. So I gave him like a piece of a previous. I was like, look. 367 00:56:01.530 --> 00:56:07.350 Dave Love: just read this, it'll get you up to speed. I'm sorry you missed the 1st one, but you really need this piece. 368 00:56:09.520 --> 00:56:21.010 Dave Love: and he was. It actually worked out really well, because he didn't like drift away. He like reengaged, and he ended up getting stronger as the course went on. But that was just a really awkward thing to do. 369 00:56:21.160 --> 00:56:23.739 Dave Love: and I was in a really awkward position. It was like 370 00:56:24.410 --> 00:56:30.829 Dave Love: you got to do the 1st assignment. So maybe next year I'll say you have to do the 1st assignment. But second, 3, rd and 4th is the choice. 371 00:56:31.300 --> 00:56:32.940 Dave Love: But yeah, it's 372 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:38.889 Dave Love: not ideal, but just the way their lives are that they need something a little space somewhere 373 00:56:39.340 --> 00:56:41.320 Dave Love: in in my in schedule. 374 00:56:43.470 --> 00:56:46.770 Keri McAvoy: Well, we're just about at time, Emily, go ahead. 375 00:56:46.770 --> 00:57:02.110 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: I was just going to say I'm going to stop the recording, but thank you all so much for joining us. Thank you to Lauren and Carrie for guiding our conversation, and special thanks to Dave. Love, it's wonderful when we get to hear from faculty and how these 376 00:57:02.180 --> 00:57:24.659 BSPH CTL Teaching Toolkit: principles that we're advocating for really show up in your classroom. So thank you so much for taking the time to share your expertise with us. If you have more questions, comments follow up for anyone. You're welcome to reach out to us at Ctl. Lauren and Carrie, specifically on this topic. So I'm going to stop the recording now.